You could hunt with it. by Mescalero Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:51 am, Post ALSO, on many shotguns, s/s, o/u and some others the safety is RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS under the thumb. This is a great shotgun for getting started in cowboy action shooting. The 1897 and coach guns are the most common used by cowboy shooters so thats where I started with my research. The same held true for the Remington Slugs, which kicked quite a bit harder than the Federal Reduced Recoil slugs, but nowhere near the beating dished out by the Express Magnum buckshot. Because the Coach isnt the most ideal hunting shotgun, Stoeger provides 12 and 20 gauge owners with only fixed M and IC choke tubes, with flush and extended options available as aftermarket purchases. I have 2 IGA/Stoegers, the Coach Gun (20") and an Uplander (26"). by Rusty Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:59 pm, Post Got a buddy who's on his third because the firing pin on the first barrel has failed on all of them. Theres a great deal to learn about Stoegers premier side by side but before we get the ball rolling on the Gunivore review of Stoeger Industries Coach Gun, check out our rundown on the past, present, and future of the entire up-and-coming Stoeger Company. As soon as I ground the first atom of material off of one of the parts, my Stoeger was out of warranty. The coach gun turned me into a clay-bird-destroying machine of death. Overall Rating * * * * 1/2 Still looks great though, very traditional. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Actually hard to open. Ironically, the best thing to ever happen to Stoeger is also the reason why they will never be a household name. One other thing to look at is head space. The gun is simple enough that I think I can fix about any problem that might happen if I can get the parts. Right barrel IC choke. Flawless. Stoegers parent company isnt Benelli. Older guns were made this way. Your Life Can Change in 16 Seconds. I bought new Stoeger single trigger 12 ga. last summer when I started CAS. I removed the stock to access the action, removed the spring and rod, and then took the rod to my grinder. Also have a CZ hammer 12 gauge double. He informed me that the Coach Guns right barrel is an improved cylinder choke, with the left a modified choke. Colt pistols, Marlin rifles and old SxS's.. Hammer-spur checkering on my TTN is flat-topped, providing just the right purchase for cocking, without tearing up anything (me included). Don't have a lot of rounds through it yet. I pared a lot of wood off the fore-end, turning it into a modified splinter type. Have LTCH to verify . If you can lay your hands on a Spartan coach gun, the Russian Remington some call it, do it. $4.69. While there are still companies that manufactured 1897 clones, I read conflicting information about the quality of the clones and I didnt want to buy one for competition that would be older than I am. Whether putting these Stoegers to use in competition, home defense, or various hunting scenarios, the Coach will not disappoint. There are cheaper guns. Sometimes I use a little fixture to make sure everything is square during the rough sanding. 3. The right barrel threw a wider pattern than the left. It is hell-for-stout, and still tight, after several thousand rounds, including 3" 000Buck and 600-grain Brenneke slugs.. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It just started having light primer strikes at 250 rounds. The ability to change the chokes was the main reason I went with the Supreme model. by Ji in Hawaii Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:48 am, Post I don't know about Biden, but my (plain, non-tactical) Stoeger coach gun has been rock-solid and I have no complaints. I have a shotgun that only puts a small indentation, dent, in the shells in the right cylinder. And thats it. Rusty, grandson Jerry3 has a Stoger coach gun in 12ga and has not had any trouble with it at all.He used it when we were cowboy shooting trouble free. The 20-inch barrels are the longest single chunk of the gun. Stoeger sends a prepaid shipping label for warranty returns. A lot of people think the Coach Gun is a niche firearm, but in truth, its actually a quite versatile shotgun. Thought my daughter could use it for home protection a bit quicker, shes fifteen and Im a single dad. I want both barrel boom, me pull both triggers, . Nor, as it turned out, underwear, T-shirts or a pair of socks. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Get a good quality recoil pad (I would recommend a Pachmayr Magnum Trap pad for this application) and put it on the gun. The action is stiffer than my Browning shotguns but not horribly stiff. I now have a $400 shotgun with $700 invested. I gave my Stoeger Coach Gun a workout last week shooting full-house, nine pellet 00 buck. I wasted no time taking the Silverado into the great Arkansas outdoors for a work-out. No sir. by Bridger Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 am, Post In Forrest's first major cavalry victory, he divided his men into three groups. It is made at the Zhongzhou Machine Works in mainland China. All combined, there was was about 2 boxes worth of clay targets shot with with the Coach that weekend. Heavy, but in a short barrelled coach gun that's not entirely a BAD thing. Although side by sides are relatively uncommon for sporting nowadays, many folks do use the Stoeger Coach for plinking, trap, and cowboy action shooting. All you have to do is push these hinged parts rearward to cock the hammers. You could/should put a good, modern recoil pad on such a short/light gun. He did send me a new spring. Killed two at 40 yards and they never moved out of their tracks. by Blaine Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:56 pm, Post Since I switched to Winchester I have not had that problem. The Single-Trigger Coach Gun. Take the extractor out, and ensure the large rod is not bent for starters. by mergus Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:00 pm, Post If you shoot buckshot loads labeled Express Magnum out of a 12 gauge shotgun that weighs slightly more than a bag of sugar (6.5 pounds), you can expect a significant ballistic noogie. There are a couple possible issues (dominant trigger finger, one round firing while the hammer falls on the other causing a force reduction, etc) but if the right trigger doesn't fire on it's own consistently I don't know. Clean the firing pin and screw well and oil lightly. Brand: Stoeger. With the coach gun, all I have to do is choose which of the two triggers is connected to the correctly charged barrel. With birdshot and buckshot, the groups were also different sizes. While the short barrel was tough to follow through with on fast crossers, it actually swung better at. It's blued with pretty wood. Shortening the spring is that opens the shotgun is usually the cause of it coming open when fired. Unfortunately, this is one of the few models which doesnt feature Benellis signature Inertia Driven Bolt System, which efficiently sheds weight, boosts reliability, and adds simplicity to a firearm. So I wasnt too concerned about voiding the warranty. I was in a LGS the other day and I looked at coach gun-wish like all I get out I could remember the brand. I can put a slug in the left barrel, and a charge of number 6 shot in the right barrel, ready for any large or small game that might cross my path. I have taken it to a local gunsmith three times, sent it back to Stoeger, who refuses to look at it because the safety was reversed. Consequently, more and more companies are producing lighter, stronger, and cheaper models. More Guns. Barrels fall open from their own weight, at the touch of the toplever.. Damn facts! And yes, it does kill pigeons like nobodys business! You can also use a honing stone to do this, but I couldnt find mine due to the move (unlike the Dremel, the honing stones are still hiding in a box somewhere the garage). Research into the matter revealed that I was being unrealistic. The Stoeger Coach Guns I've fired (12 and 20 gauge) have worked well after break in. That was not readily visible in the other pic. Getting a good finished appearance is the other 90% of the issue. If you are interested in an exposed hammer gun, then the Pioneer Arms is the very best I have found. Smoke, disintegrate, obliterate, clobber. The Supreme's butt stock and beaver tail fore-end . It took a lot of effort to open after firing both barrels, but at least I wasnt breaking it open over my knee like one of the other shooters who also had a new Stoeger. It takes a real man to cut one up. Its going to be my pack gun/ go every where gun. Since the Coach Gun is marketed specifically to Cowboy Action shooters who shoot large steel targets at fairly close ranges, a pair of chokes on the wider end of spectrum makes perfect sense. MY COACH GUN IS SIMPLY A SHORT 2-BARREL. Amantino in Brazil, the Silverado looks classy, maybe even beautiful. Nice review. I typically use1200 or 1600 grit wet/dry paper on both faces of the hammer and the interior surfaces of the frame. Ask Stoeger to replace it with a duel trigger model, you will have no more issues. Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:57 AM EST [#5] All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. There it was: a stock and action section, forearm piece, and the barrels. by Ji in Hawaii Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:08 am, Post It's based on a proven inertia-driven platform. Out of the box this gun will not fire. This is a high-class place so act respectable. Transitioning trigger to trigger on the Coach Gun felt light years ahead of racking the 870s pump between shots. (My shoulders don`t like to pump my 97 without pain.). Does anyone know what the fix is or do I have an expensive wall hanger.HELLLLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!! I still have those two old Stevens I got back in the Shooters World heyday. And thats when it happened. 20" barrel, fixed chokes, double triggers, made in Brazil. But I liked it so much, that I bought one. The matte nickel action and barrels contrast nicely with the dark and figured walnut. I'll pay what I have to but I don't need a hand built engraved master piece either. Strictly for Home defense . If you watch the Video of the Instruction Manuel, at the very end, I also hope to try it out at a local skeet range sometime before dove season starts this fall so that I can decide whether it is as good a hunting gun as it is a cowboy gun. I just bought a satin nickel 12 GA for $349 including shipping on the web. After asking around, the biggest complaint I heard about the Coach was its out-of-box issues handling cold weather. Model: DOUBLE & OVER UNDER MODELS. Its traditional double-trigger design is right at home at cowboy-action events. When it comes to tactical flashlights, its hard to beat Streamlight; this renowned company has two exceptional devices that are perfect for Stoegers Double Defense. Very nice. Coach guns are used by a lot of beginning cowboy action shooters and some of the better shooters use them at my local competitions. Estimated New and Used Values for a Stoeger Industries Coach Gun Values are based on a basic model with no options or colors. hes a trip. Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. Nonetheless, the Coaches feature beautiful walnut stocks, suitable checkered grips, and simple top-tang safeties. My wife actually expressed an interest in my long guns, wanting to know which ones were loaded in case she needed one. Seems very solid. I tried Remington, Winchester, Imperial and Federal shells - 2 3/4 to 3". Have put a few hundred thru it shooting clay birds. The Stoeger Coach Gun is a lot of fun in a lightweight, easy-to-handle package. You have to go through the same routine with any of the black powder Italian clones, i.e., polishing all of the mating surfaces, particularly the surfaces that interface the hammer. I took it to the local gun range and set it at an average in-the-home distance. In resopnes to Doug Preston; Unfortunatly the single trigger Stoeger Coach Guns seem to be problematic. It was very tight. It is called a coach gun because it was widely used by stage coach guards in the Wild West days. As an added bonus, they don't make that scary racking sound pumps make. If I ever do get one, Ill be sure to give it this treatment. Where and how do I send my gun for warranty repair service? 4. USSG has some decent coach style SxS shotties. Smith. I own the Stoeger Coach Gun from HE@#. See if it doesn't loosen up. Clean the firing pin and screw well and oil lightly. Article all the work on that Coach Shot Gun most interesting in a long time It is easy to work on, as I have described above. It still draws curious onlookers, when I slip it out of its travel case.. As previously suggested. The Stoeger Coach Gun was the top choice for enthusiasts looking for a side-by-side shotgun in 2019, according to volume of purchases made through the services of Gunbroker.com. by Nazgul Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:22 pm, Post Yeah, I wouldnt dream of trying to finish it off already mounted on a nicely finished piece of wood. Find a good quality, long barreled double for $350 or less and cut it off to 22 inches. With the coach gun, I wasnt so much shooting doubles as I was wiling them to turn into little clouds of clay dust. With these improvements, my shotgun technique at the next match was much smoother than it had been at the previous match. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. Though, for a double triggered firearm, its pretty easy to use; Stoeger incorporated a nicely sized trigger guard with smooth curves for some added user-friendliness. This is a job best left to a gunsmith, because while it looks easy, it isnt, and I havent the time to try to explain the process. It was awesome! This cocks the hammers as you are opening the shotgun. You have entered an incorrect email address! Customizing My Stoeger Coach Gun For Cowboy Action Competition, 3D Guns Will Increase Gun Violence in Heavily Gun-Controlled States, Concealed Carrier Gets Home in Time to Protect His Neighbor and Her Kids From a Violent Attacker, Federal District Court Judge Orders Illinois to Show Examples of Every Newly-Banned Firearm, SIG SAUER Announces the New SHOOT SIG Competition Shooting Program, ATF Not Amused by FFLs Attempt to Get Rid of Hundreds of Defective Shotguns. It's a pretty hefty gun so no need for a recoil pad. Coach guns are ingrained in American culture, and Im pumped to see them make a comeback. Some need to be frozen to grind them worth a damn. At first I thought the recoil was maybe engaging the safety but after a few misfires I realized it's light primer strikes, and I think it might be just the right barrel. Im not much good at skeet. Again, there are purpose-built guns that are better for specific types of game animals. I have heard many good things about the Baikals. The essential tools for slicking up a coach gun are a grinder, sandpaper, and polishing compound plus a screwdriver and socket for removing the buttstock. In the late 1960s to early 70s Rossi of Brazil made a similar shotgun with external hammers. Mine is an early (pre-Cimarron) TTN, from the second import lot.. P3000 Freedom Series Defense Pump Shotgun, P3000 Freedom Series Supreme Pump Shotgun, Coach Gun/ Double Defense Manual (237.75 KB). Considering how many cowboys have broken Stoegers, I asked for a lemon refund. I just cut the stock, use the cut off piece as a template , rough it down on the disc sander, finish it off by hand, and Im pretty close every time. This model is equipped with standard extractors (not ejectors) which push shells out of the chamber by about 1/4 when fully open. Nevertheless, for only a few dollars more, I cant see why anybody wouldnt just get the Bushnell. 03708431400. Ive been looking at the same shotgun. Breaking the lug is an all too frequent problem with Stoegers. I have a Stoeger Coach gun but not a Supreme. Not sure Blaine, just checked and the only thing they list now are single shots. Please Note: You can not reply to other people's classified ads, it is not a problem with your account. Eligible for FREE shipping * Trigger Lock Lever, New . This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. You can see in the photo below that the surfaces are still not smooth, but they are smooth enough to meet my needs. 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